Why does god hate esau

Romans says that God hated Esau before Esau was even born, because Esau had inherited Adam's hatred of God, and God was not pleased in His mysterious decision to elect Esau to salvation.

Psalm says, "The arrogant cannot stand in Your presence; You hate all who do wrong. I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies. How are we to understand this? In some cases, hate simply means "love less. That kind of "soft" explanation, however, won't work in the passages we cited above. God did not love Esau less than Jacob; He did not love Esau in any saving way at all. It is Psalm —22 that gives us an important perspective on this matter.

To hate someone is to count him as an enemy and to treat him as an enemy. Only five times do we read that God hates in the sense described above. Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. Other New Testament passages apply hate as happening between one person and someone else or in the Semitic sense of prefer.

The passage in Romans does not deal with Salvific predestination but with a linage choice through which the messiah would come. Obviously salvation in the New Covenant which makes the Old Covenant obsolete does not come by way of bloodlines John For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but "Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.

For this is what the promise said: "About this time next year I will return, and Sarah shall have a son. This hatred occurred at the moment of conception. And God does not do thing arbitrarily. So there is something that distinguishes Esau from Jacob. We know Isaac was a child of promise from parents God had chosen and we might argue from the Hebrew word they were tamaiym. But Rebecca we have no reason to believe she was tamaiym. This means based on other passages that Esau carried in his genome the seed of the deceiver or of his counterparts the sons of God that copulated with human women.

The choice was obvious at this point why Jacob was favored purely for his genetic purity tamaiym-ness. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group. Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. Why did God hate Esau from the womb when he had done no evil? Ask Question. Asked 2 years ago. Active 1 year, 1 month ago. Viewed 11k times. Improve this question. Ernest Abinokhauno Ernest Abinokhauno 2, 4 4 gold badges 17 17 silver badges 45 45 bronze badges.

The reference is at Romans What I see about this question is something that revolves around the election of grace. The Hebrew expression loved X, hated Y is idiomatic , referring to choosing or preferring one over another see Luke As to why, Genesis might provide a clue, in light of divine foreknowledge, as mentioned by Paul elsewhere see Romans But, could it also be metaphorical that God promised to destroy the progress he would make in Malachi ? Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes.

Just like the example of the vessel in Rom [Rom 9: ] Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Improve this answer. The spanish version is interesting.

Where does it say God saved Jacob and not Esau in that passage of Romans? It has nothing to do with salvation. Thank you — Nihil Sine Deo. I'm not saying that Esau wasn't saved. My point is just as God has the power and authority to condemn or save a person Rom , He also has the power and authority to keep his covenant or hate someone, which is the case of Jacob and Esau.

The answer to this I think can be found in Obadiah chapter 1: Because of the violence against your brother Jacob, you will be covered with shame; you will be destroyed forever. Bach Bach 6, 1 1 gold badge 15 15 silver badges 54 54 bronze badges. A few observations can be made: "love" and "hate" appear to be covenant terms.

A person "loved" is embraced in covenant while a person "hated" is outside the covenant. It may seem strange or even offensive for God to prove his love for one nation by widespread destruction of another nation.

It is roughly equivalent to celebrating the rape of a family member. In seeking to convince his people of his abiding love for them, the Lord stifles a potential objection. The Lord does not regard their capacity to rebuild as wishful thinking, but instead works out his hatred for Edom by destroying whatever progress they make.

The final verse of the passage concludes the description of God working out his hatred of Edom by turning to the way in which he works out his love for Israel. One might have expected God to assure Israel that it in contrast to Edom would be built up and would prosper, or that it would never be taken advantage of again. This short verse is deceptively simple and highly significant. Now they will speak otherwise, visibly convinced.

But their speech entirely concerns God and his glory, not themselves. This is how God executes his love for his deeply discouraged and wronged people—he works out justice in the earth, to his great glory.

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